Religion is controversial.
And, honestly, If God is SO against it,
then forget him.
Are most of us not taught to love everyone for WHO they are?

Don't judge a book by it's cover.
Don't just a human by their orientation.

As far as the states go,
We are given free speech, and etc that are listed int he amendments,
we have free orientation.
Gay Straight Bi.
We have CHOICES.
But only ONE get to have
the true benefits?
It's absurd to think that because someone loves someone fo the same sex they are PENALIZED.
It is a personal choice.
It is not a national choice.
The whole world, or even a few people, cannot control your orientation.
Sorry, But I agree with Gay RIghts

Gays will be able to marry in all states sooner than later

I just came out !! I thank my friends in Pasadena CA
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Terry Wetherholt

Gays are ready to get married at the drop of a dime. WHy cant we take it slow like the straights do
Well I will marry if someone asked me to lol

Terry Wetherholt

We have rights just like any other person. I fight everyday because I am gay!

I just came out !! I thank my friends in Pasadena CA
Visit my page http://www.terrywetherholt.com

Terry Wetherholt

hi i think that gay marriages are wrong but im bi sexual so i mean I have no choose but to agree

history?

I am sorry this problem has become such a "political" issue, it's just hard to understand how things turned this way. I think we should learn from the history and go for acceptance.
Marriage Therapy

First off, I would like to say that I do not dislike gay people for, well, being gay. The only time I have a problem with them is when they decide to go out and have a relationship with another man or woman. I feel that GOD made man and woman and for them to have a perfect union. Now I'm not saying that I believe that gay people are sinful and are bound to go to hell because I'm not. I just don't believe they should be allowed to get married. I believe that marriage is meant for a man and a woman.

Do you like Football, dancing, music, theatre, art, video games, eating, sleeping, or just hanging out?
Guess what, guys!

I do too.

Gay people are a disease?---I didn't know that. Very interesting...I wish gay people could be invisible. Not because I don't enjoy seeing them around, that's fine with me. I wish they could be invisable so they could walk up behind you, dance around you, spit, kiss, or jump all over you and give you this TERRIBLE disease..Maybe then you'd think them equal.

Oh, but they are going straight to Hell, too?---Because that's specifically what God made them for..I don't think so. Doesn't seem very legitimate to hear that God created everyone and everything and says to love everyone regardless of what they do, yet, he damns them to Hell for something he knew they were to become.

Society will be corrupted if gay marriage were legal!---Haha, oh really? And society hasn't been corrupted at all with celebrities getting married for 55 hours "Just for fun". It hasn't been corrupted at all by the murder of spouses and children. The world will remain perfect if those "disease-ridden monstrosities" were not allowed to love eachother because we don't like to see two boys holding hands down the street...But two girls holding hands..YEAH! THAT'S HOTTTTT! No...That is bullshit, ignorance and selfishness. Plus, it's not like you would get a chance with them anyway. Sorry, Pal.

Gay people give America a bad name!---And you would know this because you have given them the time of day to prove this to you? I heavily doubt that...

They can't fall in love!---You serious?? Okay buddy, 83% of gay people, both men and women, that are together in their mid-twenties, STAY together until their death. I don't really think you want to know the percentages of straight couples and their ability to last. But if you do, let's just say it's less than 83%...by about 15%...
And THEY'RE the ones that can't fall (or stay) in love? Okay...

I'm done.

But just so everyone knows, this isn't geared towards anyone in particular in this forum board. I'ts merely a reaction to all of the responses combined.

Have a GREAT day and remember to wear the gas mask if you're walking past a gay club downtown. Don't wanna getcha sick or anything...

I swear to goodness, what is so wrong about Gay marriage? why is it disgusting? why is it disturbing? its not going to kill you if 2 girls or 2 guys get married! its not hurting you, so whats so wrong about it?! if 2 people are in love, it shouldn't be a problem if they are the same sex. Gay epople are just like me and you, except we aren't discriminated against for the people we fall in love with. its the freaking 21st century, times have changed. people don't just decide to go gay, that's the way they are, and they have the same rights as us, to love who they chose, whether or not they are the same sex. and for all you christian EXTREMISTS who belive being gay is such a huge sin; if God Doesn't like gay people, then why does he create them?
that got you thinking, didn't it?

As a heterosexual I'm all for gay /lesbian marriages. When your on the outside it's hard to be open-minded about such an issue, but like you really have to be openminded and those that aren't need to grow up. And I'm just so amazed on why the Government is really against this. The democratic governor is such a jerk; I mean is like the world going to end if gay/lesbians get married, I mean like their already dating. I really don't see the problem. So like now when gay or lesbian people want to get married they like have to go on a journey and run off to those places where same sex marriages are legal??? Like thats just so ridiculous, just allow same sex marriages everywhere becuase when theres a will theres a way and couples aren't going to let this obnoxious law stop them.

My personal opinion on this issue is complex. For the first point, I think that any two people should be allowed to be involved in a transaction that benefits both parties (within reason, of course (i.e. One person paying another to kill someone is NOT acceptable)). This is the same case with any civil union or marriage. If you look at a civil union (between a homosexual or a heterosexual couple), it is an amalgamation of two people for the financial and other benefits offered by the government. (If you've seen the movie, "I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry", the financial benefits described are pension benefits and whatnot. But, in fact, there are numerous benefits included with marriage. The U.S. Government Accounting Office reported in 2004 that there are 1,049 federal statutory provisions that are contingent upon marital status. (http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf). In effect, we are negating the words of the Declaration of Independence "that all men are created equal" and the construed conclusion that since all men are equal all men deserve the same rights (to be politically correct, all men & women).

It is absolutely unjust to say that a certain people don't deserve rights. However, American and human history has seen this through and through. African Americans, women, homosexuals, immigrants. These are all groups of people who have experienced discrimination and, arguably, still do. If we look to the past we will see that interracial marriage was just as hotly debated fifty or sixty years ago, and it was just as taboo as homosexuality is now. There is no reason, on a legal stand point, that two people, regardless of the gender or either parties, should not be allowed to reap the financial and legal benefits that everyone else in society is allowed to.

Now there is another part of this argument. The moral stand point. I have no interest in the Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh, Hindu, Unitarian, Scientologist, or any other religious view. We have to have a secular state in order to properly function. If we become a theocracy (which many argue that we are), then our whole way of life and our whole function as a democracy will crumble. Having said that, the moral standpoint I subscribe to is that all are equal, and that all should be treated as such. A personal dogma of mine is to Do unto others as I would like to have done unto me, or conversely, do not do to others what I would not like to have done unto me. This incorporates both the Jewish and Christian dogmas of morality. I feel as if all worldly religions have this basic morality, though. Regardless, the state should have to religious opinions one way or the other and thusly should see nothing wrong from a legal or moral standpoint. The only immoral act is that which promotes inequality, which would in this case be forbidding gay rights.

Also, love should not be a factor in this argument because there are plenty of false heterosexual marriages that are not based on love. And the divorce rate in heterosexual couples continues to rise, so homosexual couples should have every right to attempt to find love in the bindings of marriage.

Lastly, it is in my opinion that we need to start repairing our communities. Coming from Nebraska, I know the scars and bruises that you have when your community hates you for being different. We have a growing need for community in the world today, locally, nationally, and globally. Our global environment is tense. The only way we can get through the issues of today is if we put aside our differences and work together. Part of that is to accept one another for who they are. Black or white, muslim or hindu, gay or straight, religious or atheist, rich or poor. We have GOT to stop promoting hatred and START promoting peace and equality.

wouldnt you just want those people to be happy though? Is it soo wrong that 2 people who make each other happy and love each other, shouldnt be married? i believe that is is the peoples choice whether or not to be involved in gay marriage. individuals have the right to be free and by the government putting a damper on it, how are they to be free? that is just how they are, they feel comfortable in their skin and they express confidence. is that such a bad thing?

What I think is gay is congress - Owning our land, telling us what we can and cannot do - That is gay. Guys who have sex with men arenot gay - They are human beings who have made a choice. Whats gay is we actually have to talk about this shit - But when will we do something? Check out my blog and for gods sake post! =p http://gregleonetti.blogspot.com/

To everyone who says gay marriage should be banned:

How can you force a new law on everybody when it only pertains to your personal belief? If you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't get one.

I believe much of our idea of marriage comes from the Romans and a decree to help increase the "pure blood" of Romans. They couldn't pass down property and political stature to women or to boys conceived out of marriage. So they made a law about marriage where only man-woman unions would be legal. The budding religion of Christianity was affected by this and accepted the law into its beliefs since it emphasized the idea of family and not wasting seeds.

So marriage isn't just about love or sex or making kids. It's about property and politics. It's about taxes and tax breaks. These gay people asking for marriage rights are asking for these things. To be able to have property rights and other rights equal to man-women unions. I don't mind that they want those rights. I'd willingly give it to them since we don't really have a need to increase the "pure blood" of our ruling class.

Now the idea of family. Well, I don't mind if they adopt a child and raise it as their own. There are many children in foster homes looking for better homes and families to belong to. One thing that child is going to know is that they're chosen by two people who love each other.

the dictionary defines marriage as:
"The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife. "
k so i think gays should b able 2 prove their love and all that but not under the word marriage. marriage describes a man and a woman not...otherwise. they should use their own word not marriage..

this may sound kinda dumb but hear me out. by calling gays married, the word will stretch out 2 a huge extent. soon ppl will b "marrying" animals (just an example but hey u never kno)the word marriage will become completely worthless and will never signify as much as it does now. it will become like bf and gf...nobody cares if they're bf and gf but married is married.
Moi, 14 XD
p.s. tell me wat u think about this i'm pretty sure no one has brought it up b4...

We are human, and we deserve rights in a free country. The legal rights that come with marriage are important, however, lack of those rights will not put an end to homosexuality. It may or may not be a choice depending on the person. For me, personally, it is something that I did not choose and had a difficult time coming to terms with. Also, God loves everyone. If you believe homosexuality is a sin, then remember... everyone is a sinner because no one is perfect. God loves everyone equally.

I believe opinions and beliefs should not interfere with legal rights. The work against homosexual marriage is a matter of prejudice based in fear and hate. It takes away from HUMAN rights and HUMAN freedom. We are not a circus show. We deserve all the same rights too.

Who?

if you dont want to talk about it, DONT POST!

i agree with you, besides, not everyone is a CHRISTIAN!

If you would think seriously about what everyone is thinking, they are being like kind of racist..

in a way is all im sayin'

OK, first I'd like to say, people are people. Now, think of how you distinguish and separate people. Make sure to not judge by appearance. OK,now look on the inside. Are they kind, intelligent, funny, etc.? These are people we meet and greet every day. Now, say these people are your friends. You know them well, but you have just recently found out that your friend(s) is/are gay. Would you feel comfortable telling them they can't marry, they'll go to hell, they can't be a parent? Seriously, it's common respect. These people are just like us and some may think homosexuality can be fixed, but if it's who you are, then what is there to fix? How is homosexuality so terrible? I believe in God. I may not go to church, I may not believe in the bible. However, I do believe there is a god and many spirits. How on earth or in heaven is gay marriage or homosexuality so wrong????????????????? As many have said before, the Bible has been edited and written by men for thousands of years!!! These are not God's exact words which is my opinion. Believe what you want, but give gays and lesbians the same opportunity you have. Give each person, disregaurding their race, gender, position, sexual orientation, etc. the same amount of respect. Besides, aren't we supposed to keep church and state separated??? yo_its_amy, I completely agree. If we based our laws on what Christians believe, when do the other Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc. get there say in how their country should be run???

Though I'm straight (and a very strong Christian), I'm not completely sure if I support gay marriage or not.

A couple of my best friends are gay, and I know I would not want them to be completely unhappy in the future when they want to get married and won't be able to, but I do have to go by the Bible when it says that a man and a woman come together. I'm not sure if I can get this correctly, but the only times I can think of homosexuality showing up in the Bible is when they're condemning it.

I know religion shouldn't show up in the government to an extent. I mean, if it did, then we'd have different types of laws for different presidents. If we based this law on Christianity, then we'd have to base future laws on every other presidents' religion, and then we'd all be pretty darn confused. =/

So, whether Christians support it or not, we can't base that on how we base every law in America. If we did, the whole "freedom of religion" thing would kind of go down the drain, don't ya think?

Eesh, I'm not completely sure if I covered everything (I probably didn't. Heehee), and I'm not sure if it makes any sense (it probably doesn't.), but I tried my best. ^_^

Personally, I believe that people should be allowed to love and marry whomever they want. Practically everyone who is against gay marriage brings up the Bible and Christianity. But, if I'm not mistaken, the United States is supposed to have a seperation of church and state, meaning that religion should have no impact on the government whatsoever. That being said, there is no justifyable reason as to why gay people cannot have the same rights as straight people. After all, what makes one better than the other? Absolutely nothing.

Exactly! Just because someone is gay gives you no right to judge them. Thank you!Sorry, you think gay sex is wrong, but I'm glad that you dont go all out on it and say its digusting. Some people on these boards take it to a whole other level. It drives me up the wall! ;)Anyway, I really like the way you expressed your feelings!

Hey, I dont think same sex marriage is okay, but I dont have anything against any gay people. To truly judge someone, u have to know them from the inside, not what their opinions are on certain topics..

I think smae sex marriage is great! Personally, i think it is great for ANYONE that is in love to get serious and married, if God didn't plan for us to be gay, then who did? I think God pre-makes a plan for all of us, and HE is the one who makes us gay or not! Please at least listen to my opinion! I know it might seem gross to you, and you are probably judging me right now, but dont! I am just here for a different perspective!

You are totally right! I dont see how they can NOT ratify it in ALL 50 states. Let people do what they want! Why should it be anyone else's business?

Love is an extremely difficult realization that someone, other than oneself, is real.
-Irish Matcoch

gay marriage should be ratified by all 50 states. To not do so would be to contradict the ideals on which this country was founded.

Men are equal; it is not birth but virtue that makes the difference.
Voltaire

Its all good, tink. I AM glad that you're making friends on here. And to answer your question, I think that banning gay marriage is discriminatory. Yes, some religions state that gay marriage is wrong, but law is based on equity, not religious beliefs.

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im getting back on subject. What do you guys really think of gay marriage??

Yes....you guys haven't crossed the line at all, but please try to obey the spirit of the law rather than merely the letter

oh okay well thats cool

me? I'm good, I wont be online this weekend though.

how r u doing? every thing okay? (im trying to be a good friend here). see, i dont communicate well with people, because i really dont communicate with people alot. i only have one friend (here in tennessee). so, i thought i would try to talk, or somethng.

Our mailbox is up by our front porch.

okay, well, i promise we're not getting married! but, noone else was talking, so hey, we have to start conversation. but, okay. i will stop talking about the letter....Alisa, dont you have a mailbox? Why dont you stick it in your mailbox and turn the flag up?

What does your getting a letter have to do with Gay Marriage? Unless the two of you are getting married. Kidding, but honestly, can you guys stay on topic, for the sake of DoSomething? Thanks guys:)

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You better.....

okay, well, i check my mail everyday, so whenever you send it, i will definetly send you one back

Thank you, you too. Secret, I'm told I'm weird and crazy alot too. BTW, still didnt get to mail your letter, am still trying. Will have Mom do it as soon as I can get her to.

i get that alot, lol. anyway, im real glad i met you

you're crazy do you know that? lol

i promise me and jpgorak are NOT the same people.

im very glad. i wasnt meaning it just to you, but to everyone. most people dont take me seriously when i say something, because of my age, so i wanted to make sure you knew i was being serious

tinklovers Wrote:
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> i know its against your religion, as well as mine.
> but still, alot of people say im mature for my
> age. im not bragging because most of the time its
> not a good thing. but, just because of my age,
> dont just shrug off my words. i meant everything
> in that post. so, it has meaning. and dont say i
> was harsh or mean either. have you read yall's
> post? you guys are the most judgemental people i
> have ever seen. but, its not my business how you
> feel. and im not obligated to jugde you either.

No I didnt mean it like that! I meant that for only being twelve you've spoken very strong words. I dont see that within someone that young. I am not trying to talk down to you, because it was only four years ago that I was twelve. Being mature is a good thing most of the time, just dont think you're ready to be an adult yet because you're mature. This may sound strange but even though being a homosexual is against my religion, I do not mistreat them. I wasn't raised like that, and I refuse to be that way.

i know its against your religion, as well as mine. but still, alot of people say im mature for my age. im not bragging because most of the time its not a good thing. but, just because of my age, dont just shrug off my words. i meant everything in that post. so, it has meaning. and dont say i was harsh or mean either. have you read yall's post? you guys are the most judgemental people i have ever seen. but, its not my business how you feel. and im not obligated to jugde you either.

I dont have a problem with gay people, even though its against my religion. I will say something though, your words are very strong, especially for being 12. Do stand up for what you believe in, even if others dont.

i think gay marrage is okay. let me ask yall somethng? didnt God say you would be forgiven for all of your sins? what makes homosexuality any different? okay (no offense to anyone just saying the truth) if you are against gays, you are prejudiced. just like if you judge someone by the clothes they wear, or the color of their skin,or their religion. honestly, its none of anybody's business who gets married and who doesnt. the law cant force someone to become straight because, omg they cant get married. if they really love each other, marriage wont be a problem. they will continue dating until they are gone. think about it this way. what if they outlawed heterosexual marriage. how would you feel? would that force everyone to be gay? NO! Hello, wake up and smell the cofee here people. you are born with a sexual prefernce. no amount of bullying, or anything can change your sexual preference. if someone put a gun to your head and said,"if you dont turn gay i'll shoot you," you couldnt turn gay. so, why should gay people turn straight? because they arent allowed to get married? you honestly think that will stop them? NO! sure God didnt make adam and steve, but you know what? he didnt make people so they could sin either. think about that, and anyone who has a problem with gays, has a problem with me

cori11 I agree completly.