The holiday season is traditionally a season of giving and togetherness. Yet an essay published by the Royal Bank of Canada, entitled "The Spirit of Christmas," described this time of the year as the time when many are "oozing good will towards their fellow men until after the New Year, when they can go back to their dog-eat-dog existence and their indifference to the plight of other human beings." Would it be more advantageous for Christmas to be done away with, and instead have a planned spirit of giving and goodwill 365 days a year? If you knew for a certainty that the number of hungry children would go down as a result, would you be willing to make that sacrifice of Christmas? What is the most important priority? Just Know Why Common Public Service Agency (CPSA)
Priorities / Tradition
Date: Wed, 2006-11-29 23:43
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I don't want to get rid of Christmas, why do you talk about it like it's just another scam in this world? Christmas is special and it's a time of joy and sharing, a time of traditions and a time off this difficult world for all of us. Of course there are many children in need in this world, of course there are people who are willing to be more loving only in Christmas time, or there are others who are constant in sharing, these things won't change and Christmas is definitely not to blame for that.
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pilmboy has an interesting theory. However, it seems to me that you just want the overweight population to stop eating. That doesn't help anyone if they stop eating. It's how EVERYONE needs to donate whether it's food, clothing, or just our spare time. You can't put the mission of ending world hunger on the overweight population. It's not their fault. They chose how to spend their money to buy food, when to eat it, when to do everything. They may pay the consequences for it, maybe not, but that's besides the point. It's everyone's mission and everyone needs to donate. Besides, if the overweight people stopped eating, the hungry children throughout the world would still starve. It's the matter of sending the food and money to the people in need, not whether we eat or not eat the food. I forgot to add this, "People dream of changing the world, but they never think about changing themselves."
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OHHH HOLD UP. WHAY SHOULD WE GET RID OF THANKGIVING ? I MEAN AFTER ALL HAVENT WE CELEBRATE THANKGIVING FOR LIKEA LONG TIME? YEAHH ANAJ.....OK SO.....ABOUT CRITMAS I GREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE I MEAN IS LIKE WE SHOULS CELEBRATE X-MAS EVERYDAY OF THE YEAR I MEAN WE CAN GIVE LOVE,HOPE,AND BE KIND WITH EVERY BODY ELSE....BECAUSE THE MORE YOU SMILE TO OTHERS THE MORE THEY WOULD REMENBER YOU....
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i think that we shouldnt get rid of any holiday i mean you have a great point about how people are gluttons but Christmas should be about on person and one person only and that is Jesus Christ a lot of people forget about the meaning of it. You dont have to eat tons of food but in the bible Jesus did have feast...but he also did not waste food and he DID feed the hungry. Wiping out the holidays arent going to do anything people are going to eat as much as they want and they would find another exscuse for eating so much anyways. What people really need to do is maybe instead of gorging down food they should go and work at a shelter or a soup kitchen or donate food or something...not wipe out the entire holiday completely. =)
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pilmboythe2nd Wrote:
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> Maybe we don't have to get rid of christmas, but
> we need to at least get rid of Thanksgiving. That
> is the most stupid Holiday in the world. I mean
> what are we really celabrating. A couple of
> pilgrims coming over here and becoming friends
> with the native americans? We killed them all, why
> are we celabrating that! We should celbrate all
> the wars we have won, and how lucky we are to have
> all this food. But That is beside the point. I
> have a great idea, and I am sure Hereo will
> disagree but I don't care at all! ( forget usher)
> Everybody that has more than 35% body
> fat should not be allowed to eat at Thanksgiving,
> Chritstmas and easter. Think about it, if those
> fat over weight people just gave up three meals a
> day and donated it to starving kids on the street
> this counry would not have ANY HUNGRY KIDS. ZERO
> A huge portion of this country is
> obese people, and there meals are genarally huge
> compared to the average person. so just a couple
> meals a year by every fat person can make a huge,
> MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!
Forget Usher? Interesting, sorry, but I pretty much know everyone on these boards, so I doubt they would forget me. Interesting theory though.
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Maybe we don't have to get rid of christmas, but we need to at least get rid of Thanksgiving. That is the most stupid Holiday in the world. I mean what are we really celabrating. A couple of pilgrims coming over here and becoming friends with the native americans? We killed them all, why are we celabrating that! We should celbrate all the wars we have won, and how lucky we are to have all this food. But That is beside the point. I have a great idea, and I am sure Hereo will disagree but I don't care at all! ( forget usher)
Everybody that has more than 35% body fat should not be allowed to eat at Thanksgiving, Chritstmas and easter. Think about it, if those fat over weight people just gave up three meals a day and donated it to starving kids on the street this counry would not have ANY HUNGRY KIDS. ZERO
A huge portion of this country is obese people, and there meals are genarally huge compared to the average person. so just a couple meals a year by every fat person can make a huge, MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!
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Christmas is a time for giving, but you need to not give EVERYTHING away! Everyone needs to help. If everyone donated money, food, clothing, etc., we wouldn't have such a problem. For example, if people would sign for organ donations, there wouldn't be over 900,000 people waiting for a new organ. If everyone gave a little, it could make a major difference. We need to get info out there and show people what a difference they can make, even with just a dollar or extra change. We can't give up Christmas, but we sure could help more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If today's society was really committed to alleviating the problem of child hunger--wouldn't a redirection of the billions of dollars spent over Christmas be a natural act? After all, this is a day that is representing Jesus, a man who reached out to the poor; a man who fed the hungry; a man who took nothing for himself, and encouraged giving to others.
Something more to chew: if the whole society was commited to serving the needy all year round, there would be not much of a problem anymore. We would have time to celebrate with them, and spend christmas with them. How would one feel if one had no money, was provided for by complete strangers, all the time, and at a holiday time, was told, "Oh, you're so needy, so we're going to give up all of our celebrations so that we can tend to your needs." Would that be honoring? On the contrary, it would be offensive and degrading. If one was told, however, "Come, celebrate with us! It is the season for giving!" That, would be a priceless gift.
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JustKnowWhy Wrote:
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> The holiday season is traditionally a season of
> giving and togetherness.
>
> Yet an essay published by the Royal Bank of
> Canada, entitled "The Spirit of Christmas,"
> described this time of the year as the time when
> many are "oozing good will towards their fellow
> men until after the New Year, when they can go
> back to their dog-eat-dog existence and their
> indifference to the plight of other human
> beings."
>
> Would it be more advantageous for Christmas to be
> done away with, and instead have a planned spirit
> of giving and goodwill 365 days a year?
>
> If you knew for a certainty that the number of
> hungry
Well...here's something to chew: is it really the holiday that makes children hungry? I argue no: neither is it feasting. Scientists have proven that the world could support 100 billion people if needed. Only 6 billion people inhabit earth, so children should not be hungry. It is not the feasting, or the gift-giving that makes the kids go hungry: it is human ignorance and greed. Is gift-giving the source of the starving children's pain? No! Can it be in certain situations? Yes, if we spend all of our money on Christmas. What needs to be done is that a proper balance of generously giving to them and to the family should be reached. So, we are celebrating with them! There are 365 days in a year: we should care for the hungry children, but we should also celebrate with them! How fun would it be for them if we took out christmas? Like, none! It's a chance to bless them immensely, and it should not be passed by.
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is it NOT obvious that we sould ALREADY be treating everyone with dignity, respect, charity and love? Do we REALLY need a "holiday" to appreaciate our, mother's, father's, and Jesus or have special "months" for this and that? (ie black history, native american, asian american etc.) We DO NOT need a specific month to show our gratitude for these people. It's an EVERY DAY THING! The need doesn't just dissapear when it's not a holiday.
Would I miss Christmas...OF COURSE I would. It's not about getting presents or the other materialism that has come with it. It's being thankful for what you have, the blessings of family, faith, love and giving doesn't cost anything...a helping hand, a listening ear and and understanding heart.
Christmas IS part of the fabric of AMERICA regardless of what religion someone is. Spending time with family and friends and appreciating all they do for you means so much. To forget about your differences and celebrating your similarities, comraderies and the blessings you have in your life. The problem is that it has been turned into a commercial GLUTTONFEST!! Instead of giving your kids tons of toys that they'll only play with for two why not let your kids bring warm coats and blankets, maybe even pick out a toy for a child who never get one or serve meals at a soup kitchen...SOMETHING....kids take for grated ALL that they have.
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We don't need to get rid of Christmas...we need to make every day Christmas! It sounds funny, but seriously. If everyone displayed kindness, love, and generosity every day of the year, our world would be a better place.
However, the whole gift giving thing has to go! We are becoming so materialistic. It is disgraceful how people fight over items in the mall and greedily ask for expensive things when there are so many people who have so little.
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In light of today's situation, maybe society doesn't have a choice.
Think of all the money spent in the holiday season: billions of dollars, every year.
If today's society was really committed to alleviating the problem of child hunger--wouldn't a redirection of the billions of dollars spent over Christmas be a natural act? After all, this is a day that is representing Jesus, a man who reached out to the poor; a man who fed the hungry; a man who took nothing for himself, and encouraged giving to others.
So why not cancel Christmas and use all of that money all year round to help others; to feed hungry children? It would be a great sacrifice for many, to be sure. But if that is the goal: to deal with the problem of child hunger, or any other problem that requires money, shouldn't that sacrifice be a necessary and willing one?
What does this situation tell us if society, overall, is not willing to make that sacrifice? This may be a part of the reason why problems like child hunger are still in the world in 2006--because overall, tradition is more important than truth. The words of one frustrated artist could surely apply here:
"And we're all to blame,
We've gone too far,
From pride to shame,
We're trying so hard,
We're dying in vain,
We're hopelessly blissful and blind
To all we are,
We want it all with no sacrifice!"
-Lyrics from Sum 41
(For full feature see The Pragmatic Art: of Sum 41 at http://www.dosomething.org/boards/index.html?read,11,5054)
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We can't get rid of Christmas, even if we tried. However, I do see your point. The majority of the people only give during the holidays rather than multiple times during the year or when it's mostly needed. If getting rid of Christmas would let the number of hungry children decrease, I would do it. People and their health and LIFE is much more important than Chirstmas. It'd also put us into persective of spending more time with friends and family with a major holiday gone. But, we have a choice and I'd like to keep Christmas, but keep people aware of all the issues happening and that we need people to give more than once a year for help is needed all the time somewhere in the world!